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Choosing a medium
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Oct 17 2008, 3:04 PM EDT by
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When planning your class, how do you decide which tools/media students will use? How much of your decision-making is driven by specific learning objectives? your preference? Does the wiki add something to student learning that face to face lacked?
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RE: Choosing a medium
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Oct 17 2008, 3:04 PM EDT
Many of the LMS systems we use on campus (LAMP/Sakai, Angel, etc) allow us to create a Wiki in site. That would change the scope of "public" to just the other students in the class, but it's readily available by the students, and it might alleviate some fears about writing to a "public" forum.
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Oct 17 2008, 2:42 PM EDT by
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What else should students do and be graded on? A student profile?
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Defining public writing
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Public Writing
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Oct 17 2008, 10:01 AM EDT by
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We have wrestled with definitions of public writing. What are the differences between public writing, academic writing, professional writing? How do you define "public" in public writing?
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Creating an assignment
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Teaching and Assessment with Public Writing
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Oct 17 2008, 9:57 AM EDT by
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What assumptions are you making about web-based writing? How do you conceptualize web genres? What assumptions do you have about students' prior knowledge of writing online?
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Adding an Online Writing Assignment
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Writing for an Online Audience
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Oct 17 2008, 9:55 AM EDT by
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Why did you use an online (web-based) writing assignment (or why do you want to do this)? Why did you or do you want to make it public?
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Oct 16 2008, 11:35 PM EDT by
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I tried to use a more traditional rubric (and it did not work): Criteria ______page length, 8-10 pages ______3 drafts ______Works Cited page in MLA style ______One authoritative web site at least ______One image (photo or graph or chart) at least ______One print source _____ uses a clear approach and follows guidelines of that approach: Investigative Position Paper Definition Policy Refutation ______ clear argument; central thesis _______Thoughtfulness of your argument _______Accuracy (citations, quotations, statement of ideas) _______Inclusion of all important information to support the argument _______meets criteria of the writing rubric _______ sources: aim for 10. You have two types: primary and secondary. As for secondary: majority should be critical / authoritative. Show a variety.
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a conversation
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Oct 16 2008, 10:37 PM EDT by
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We just had an interesting conversation about this topic of writing and anxiety--and it was done face-to-face! So I am going to try and summarize. Corinne seems to be saying that she--and any of our students--face the formal writing assignment and have trouble writing drafts or writing online. She wants her writing to reach a high level of professionalism before it is seen, so I think she hates to put just anything down on the wiki. Unlike a private draft, the wiki is always public. She suggested that students often feel similarly about writing for a professor--they are worried that their paper needs to be "perfect." I think that when students are asked to create online documents (web pages or wikis) that they lose this self-criticism or self-restraint and feel free (overly free) to write however they want. They have a tendency to treat any online work as if it were their personal blog or Myspace page. They have no fear! In a way, I sympathize. The writing that I am doing for the wiki and that I see on other faculty wikis--this writing is not peer-reviewed as a journal article would be. I believe that the writing topic should be treated seriously and I want my writing to be clear, but it does not have to be perfect. I think that my peers understand that. Perhaps I am wrong!
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Public Writing
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Oct 16 2008, 12:14 AM EDT by
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I just finished reading a chapter from Weiser's 2002 book, Moving Beyond Academic Discourse: Composition Studies and the Public Sphere. He's very interesting and makes some interesting points about the old model of "public writing"--sending in a letter to the editor. I particularly liked this passage:
There is one final assumption about public writing that I would like to address: that its only purpose is to sway public opinion and that it does not encompass actual decision making and action. Some instructors of public writing who employ newspapers as their primary avenue for such assignments seem to feel that students’ public writing can rarely lead to substantial changes in public policy and can at best only convince others to “think differently.” ... This presumption is especially pernicious because it foreclosesreal results from student writing and often turns public writing assignments into pointless and futile exercises. While I’m not suggesting that public writing must always lead to decision making, I do believe that in certain circumstances it can...[P]ublic writing can form opinions and translate them into authoritative decisions, but only if we reconsider the presumption that public discourse is necessarily separated from legislative action. Students’ public writing can have significant, tangible, immediate results if it is directed toward publics where both debate and decision making are central goals. As facilitators of public writing, it is important that we help students locate strong publics where their voices can lead to action. Asking students to write in spheres discourse does not often lead to direct action, such as the local newspaper, is often pointless and futile. There are many arenas where student discourse can lead to palpable changes for them and others, and students may very well be members of these publics already. (110-111)
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Oct 16 2008, 12:14 AM EDT
How do you mean the term "multiplicity of spheres"? Could you give me some examples? Does this apply to online environments as well? Are the spheres the same, do you think, or are there some different ones?
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Ethics and digital writing
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Oct 15 2008, 8:22 AM EDT by
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Here is an interesting source to consider as we do research on students' writing in web 2.0 McKee, H. &. Porter, J. (2008). The ethics of digital writing research: A rhetorical approach. College Composition and Communication , 59 (4), 711-749. This essay deals with the ethical dimensions of doing research on web-based writing, and argues that current federal, organizational and institutional guidelines are ill-suited for this type of emerging research. It proposes that a model grounded in rhetoric and casuistry would better meet the unique needs of research about digital writing. Although this essay is geared towards researchers, those of us considering using digital writing in our courses can infer important questions from it: How is digital writing blending the boundaries between public and private space? How "public" do digital writers understand their writing to be? How does one deal with students' disclosure of their personal informal (and that of their acquaintances) on the internet?
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Oct 15 2008, 8:22 AM EDT
Great questions! An off-shoot of this discussion would be my own question about copyright online. "Fair use" does not apply online, since the use of material is not a one-time, academic use but ongoing use. When my students created web sites for composition, some of these have since been taken down by Googlepages. I wonder if they had used material in a way that broke copyright laws. How can they avoid having this problem? I even used a flixster image on the visuals page, but I am not sure that I can...even though I cited the source.
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Writing for an Online Audience
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Oct 9 2008, 2:09 PM EDT by
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What are the research studies on this topic? Are there good studies out there on good academic writing for a public audience online?
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Pew study
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Oct 8 2008, 3:36 PM EDT by
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Have you seen this study on teens and online writing? http://pewresearch.org/pubs/808/writing-technology-and-teens
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Oct 8 2008, 3:36 PM EDT
Yep. I looked at it yesterday!
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Writing for an Online Audience
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Oct 8 2008, 2:02 PM EDT by
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You say "students will want to use existing habits used in MySpace or other arenas." This is an important point on several levels. In The teaching and learning of web genres in first-year composition," Edwards and McKee (2005) call this "insider knowledge...knowledge about how discourse works on the world Wide Web" (p. 206).
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Oct 8 2008, 2:02 PM EDT
One more thought: Edwards and Mckee (2005) also advocate that we found out about our students' prior experiences with web pages, so we can examine with them how these are infulencing the rhetorical choices they are making in designing web pages in our classes (p. 212). Edwards, M. & McKee, H. (2005). The teaching and learning of web genres in first-year composition. In A. Herrington & C. Moran (Eds.) Genre across the curriculum (pp. 196-218). Logan, UT: Utah State University Press.
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public writing and journalism
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Oct 8 2008, 1:53 PM EDT by
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Check out this page from an mit professor-- http://web.mit.edu/transition/subs/hartley.html
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